Talk:Princess Zelda

Article name

Here is the same problem as with Queen Ambi. If we are consequent this page should be redirected to "Zelda". --Iron Knuckle 03:03, 30 January 2006 (EST)

I don't know which way would be better or more consistent, but for now I'm redirecting Zelda to Princess Zelda just so we have all the information in one article. If anyone disagrees with this we can always change it later. -davogones 15:11, 30 January 2006 (EST)

In my opnion it would be more consistent all the way round, as Ambi and Ruto are.--Arturo 13:59, 31 January 2006 (EST)

This case is different because one may think that "Zelda" refers to the series of games, rather than to the character Princess Zelda. Maybe "Zelda" should be a disambiguation page. -davogones 05:48, 5 February 2006 (EST)

Voice actor

Also does Jun Mizusawa do the voice acting of Zelda in the other official games, besides SSB:M? --Iron Knuckle 03:03, 30 January 2006 (EST)

Check the Credits FAQ. -davogones 15:11, 30 January 2006 (EST)

Her name is mentioned as a voice actor and so is the voice for Ganondorf, but they are listed only as voice actors (without being mentioned which voices they did). So can I assume they are the same. I know for sure for Ganondorf if I listen to his yells in both games.--Iron Knuckle 17:02, 31 January 2006 (EST)

TP??

And Twilight Princess? Should we upload images of Zelda from official TP art and write the little we know about her?--Arturo 16:29, 30 January 2006 (EST)

I agree with you although other than the official art picture there is not much we can say about it so far. But I will leave the decision to our Bureacrat: Davogones. --Iron Knuckle 17:01, 31 January 2006 (EST)

I suppose we might as well add this information. The information could change by the time the game is released, but this wiki should at least reflect our current knowledge. -davogones 00:31, 1 February 2006 (EST)

Zelda, foolish traitor!!

Princess Zelda...you foolish traitor!
I commend you for avoiding my pursuit for seven  
long years.

What do you think of this quote of Ganondorf? Does it mean that Zelda (or Sheik) had swore allegiance to to the Evil King? Or this is going way to far? It wouldn't have any sense to call her a traitor if she hadn't been his ally.--Arturo 10:59, 1 February 2006 (EST)

Perhaps Ganondorf means the alliance that he had with the King of Hyrule. Being the princess she should have obeyed him. This is just my hypothesis so discuss about it. --Iron Knuckle 11:43, 1 February 2006 (EST)

In my opinion, it means that Zelda herself, with the form of Sheik, has swore allegiance to him. I know this is speculative, but it would have sense if Sheik had swore allegiance to Ganondorf, he/she would be able to act freely. I don't think he means the alliance with the king because Ganondorf broke it.--Arturo 11:52, 1 February 2006 (EST)

Well since Ganondorf made himself the King of Hyrule, any act against him is treason by definition. But this is an interesting point of speculation that perhaps could be discussed in the article. -davogones 05:50, 5 February 2006 (EST)

OoT images

Iron Knuckle, thank you for putting them again, I'm still writing the second part of the article and forgot to put those ones--Arturo 15:20, 3 February 2006 (EST)

Zelda images

Perhaps we should also put part of the images in the descriptions, because there are way too many in the biography section. Arturo I understand that this is an important article, but that many images to a single section is more like overkill. Also in the description a small picture would be more appropriate.--Iron Knuckle 03:27, 5 February 2006 (EST)

Maybe the best would be to put the official art picture in the Description and the sprite in biography. Yes, I know there should be less images, but this article is so important, so I don't know how long it will become... Maybe we could separte this article in pieces, one for each Zelda. Yes, I don't like the solution, but when all the Zelda sections are written... yes, I agree it's too long. But Zelda is worth it.--Arturo 03:54, 5 February 2006 (EST)

I can copy with that. It would be better to first write the complete article and then worry about the layout and pictures. I do like the idea of putting the official art with the descriptions and the sprites in the biography. It is also true that Zelda would be worth the effort, but it must still be readible without obstructions by the images. --Iron Knuckle 04:29, 5 February 2006 (EST)

Description vs Biography

Since Zelda makes appearances in a lot of games, I think that the description and biography should simply be combined into one writeup underneath each game. It's kind of counterproductive to have to read the description in one place, then scroll down to read the biography for the same character. -davogones 05:51, 5 February 2006 (EST)

Yes, I agree with you that it's a bit unconfortable to do that. Maybe we should put use this structure: ==LoZ== ===Description=== ===Biography=== ===Miscelllaneous notes=== ===Relevant quotes=== ===See also=== ==AoL== ===Description=== ....

But, personally, I think this article should be divided in parts. I don't think a really long article is the best solution. --Arturo 06:54, 5 February 2006 (EST)

Zelda in SSBM

Is it proper to put the SSBM information in its own section, or would it be better to place it into the Description section, under a subheading for the game? It seems out of place just to be out in the middle of the page under its own heading. Also, the trophey informatin, should it instead be under the relevant quotes area? --Lesoria 15:03, 10 March 2006 (EST)

Is there anyone there??? I think that it should be out of the description since SSBM isn't a Zelda game, it's a non-canon game as the CDi games or Soul Callibur (Have I written it correctly?) are. For the same reason I think the trophies should not be with the rest of the quotes. I don't think it's a good idea to mix OoT, ALttP, MM, LoZ... with SSBM--Arturo 15:32, 10 March 2006 (EST)

Yes, there is. But unfortunately I don't have much time at this moment and therefore my updates of images and entries has come to a halt (for now). I am watching over the recent changes part to see any new updates, but it looks like everybody is on 'stand-by'. Now, On Topic; yes, I agree with Arturo that they should not be mixed. I did the same thing for Ganondorf and it looks like Sheik was already ordered in this way too.--Iron Knuckle 10:41, 11 March 2006 (EST)

Reorganization suggestion

This article has gotten massive, so I suggest the following reorganization. Keep the Princess Zelda article at a fairly normal length, explaining who the character Zelda is in general. Then, link to a separate Zelda article for each game. For example, Link to Princess Zelda (LoZ), Princess Zelda (AoL), etc. This will keep the article from getting unmanageably large. --davogones 13:03, 13 March 2006 (EST)

I had already suggested something similar. When I have time (If you haven't done it yet) I will go ahead and do it. Should SSBM go with Zelda general, with Zelda OoT or in another article?--Arturo 13:22, 13 March 2006 (EST)

Thanks! One suggestion: the naming standard should be Princess Zelda (LoZ) rather than Princess Zelda in LoZ. If you agree, I'll go ahead and move the existing articles. --davogones 01:29, 15 March 2006 (EST)

I don't really like parenthesis, but do as you think it's better--Arturo 08:59, 15 March 2006 (EST)