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The main (and only known) achievement of the Ancient Sages is to have had the [[Temple of Time]] built to protect the [[Triforce]] from evil ones. | The main (and only known) achievement of the Ancient Sages is to have had the [[Temple of Time]] built to protect the [[Triforce]] from evil ones. | ||
| − | The Temple of Time was situated in the place where the only entrance to [[Sacred Realm]] is, where the Triforce rests. In order to seal the entrance, they put a huge stone wall, called the [[Door of Time]]. They also created the four keys that open the Door of Time: the three [[Spiritual Stones]] and | + | The Temple of Time was situated in the place where the only entrance to [[Sacred Realm]] is, where the Triforce rests. In order to seal the entrance, they put a huge stone wall, called the [[Door of Time]]. They also created the four keys that open the Door of Time: the three [[Spiritual Stones]] and [[The Ocarina of Time]]. To open the Door of Time, you only have to put the three Spiritual Stones on the altar and play the [[Song of Time]] with the Ocarina of Time. |
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| + | It can be speculated whether the Ancient Sages built the other six Temples or not. It seems that the title Sage of ... (or ... Sage) is just an abbreviation of Sage of the ... Temple. The role of the Sages is, as [[Impa]] says, to guard their Temples. From this piece of evidence, it can be infered that the Ancient Sages were also guardians of their Temples, but nothing more. Because of this, more evidence should be used. | ||
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| + | The five Hyrule temples seem to be made by imperfect, unlike the Light Temple and the Temple of Time. According to '''non canon''' sources, such as zelda.com and the Official Strategy Guide, the [[Spirit Temple]] was made by Gerudos, of which one can conclude that the other temples were made by the tribe who lived on that area. But it is not necessary to use non canon sources as an evidence, since they all seem to be destroyed by time: the [[Forest Temple]] stairs, the [[Desert Colossus]]' face... But if they were built by imperfect hands, why do they wield so much power? Maybe the Ancient Sages used the [[Triforce]] to convert the five Temples into portals to the [[Sacred Realm]]. | ||
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| + | The [[Temple of Light]] is a totally different case: it seems to be a counterpart to the [[Temple of Time]]. The resting place of the Triforce seems to have been built to protect it from evil ones, as the Ancient Sages did with the Temple of Time. From this, it can be concluded that they also built, using the power of Triforce, the Light Temple. | ||
==The Triforce before the Ancient Sages== | ==The Triforce before the Ancient Sages== | ||
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From this evidence it can be concluded that Ancient Sages were just six people. | From this evidence it can be concluded that Ancient Sages were just six people. | ||
| − | ==Who were the Ancient Sages== | + | ==Who were the Ancient Sages?== |
Although only two of the Sages are known, it can be speculated about who the other six were. | Although only two of the Sages are known, it can be speculated about who the other six were. | ||
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Although no more candidates are suggested in OoT, it can be speculated who the rest of them were using as a clue the former holders of the three [[Spiritual Stones]]. | Although no more candidates are suggested in OoT, it can be speculated who the rest of them were using as a clue the former holders of the three [[Spiritual Stones]]. | ||
| − | The Spiritual Stones are, together with | + | The Spiritual Stones are, together with [[The Ocarina of Time]], the keys needed to open the [[Door of Time]]. From this, one can assume whether the Ancient Sages created them or that the Spiritual Stones existed before the Sages and they gave the stones the power to open the Door of Time. |
| − | Assuming that the stones were passed down by the Sages' descendants, one can speculate about who the [[Sage of the Forest|Ancient Sage of the Forest]], the [[Sage of Fire|Ancient Sage of Fire]] and the [Sage of Water|Ancient Sage of Water]] were. | + | Assuming that the stones were passed down by the Sages' descendants, one can speculate about who the [[Sage of the Forest|Ancient Sage of the Forest]], the [[Sage of Fire|Ancient Sage of Fire]] and the [[Sage of Water|Ancient Sage of Water]] were. It can be speculated whether the [[Sage of Shadow|Ancient Sage of Shadow]] was an ancestor of the OoT [[Impa]], possibly also named Impa. . |
====Ancient Sage of the Forest==== | ====Ancient Sage of the Forest==== | ||
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I know, because my dad is a descendant of the | I know, because my dad is a descendant of the | ||
hero! ([[Link of the Gorons]], | hero! ([[Link of the Gorons]], | ||
| − | [[Darunia|Darunia's]] son) | + | [[Darunia (Goron)|Darunia's]] son) |
| − | Although there's really little evidence about who the [[Sage of Fire|Ancient Sage of Fire]] is, we know he must be an ancestor of | + | Although there's really little evidence about who the [[Sage of Fire|Ancient Sage of Fire]] is, we know he must be an ancestor of Darunia. Only one of them is known, the so-called [[Hero of Gorons]]. Though there is no in-game evidence to prove or even suggest that he was the Sage of Fire, there is no reason to disprove it. In fact, he: |
*Was the leader of their people. | *Was the leader of their people. | ||
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reincarnation of an ancient Sage. | reincarnation of an ancient Sage. | ||
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==Translations== | ==Translations== | ||
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| '''Country''' || '''Name''' | | '''Country''' || '''Name''' | ||
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| − | | Japanese || | + | | Japanese || 大昔の賢者 ("oomukashi-no kenjya") |
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| English || ancient Sages | | English || ancient Sages | ||
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| − | + | The Japanese means ancient Sages, while, with little imagination, one can see the English and the French translations are the same. The German means just "Sages" | |
| − | == | + | ==Acknowledgments== |
Entry submitted by [[User: Arturo|Arturo]] | Entry submitted by [[User: Arturo|Arturo]] | ||
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*[[Six Sages]] | *[[Six Sages]] | ||
*[[Seven Sages]] | *[[Seven Sages]] | ||
| − | *[[Rauru]] | + | *[[Rauru (Sage)|Rauru]] |
*[[Kaepora Gaebora]] | *[[Kaepora Gaebora]] | ||
*[[Spiritual Stones]] | *[[Spiritual Stones]] | ||
| − | *[[Ocarina of Time]] | + | *[[The Ocarina of Time|Ocarina of Time]] |
Latest revision as of 15:23, 12 April 2006
Not much is known about the Ancient Sages. They are said to have had the Temple of Time built. Nothing more is said about them. In OoT they are always mentioned as the "ancient Sages".
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[edit] Builders of the Temple of Time
The main (and only known) achievement of the Ancient Sages is to have had the Temple of Time built to protect the Triforce from evil ones. The Temple of Time was situated in the place where the only entrance to Sacred Realm is, where the Triforce rests. In order to seal the entrance, they put a huge stone wall, called the Door of Time. They also created the four keys that open the Door of Time: the three Spiritual Stones and The Ocarina of Time. To open the Door of Time, you only have to put the three Spiritual Stones on the altar and play the Song of Time with the Ocarina of Time.
[edit] Builders of the other temples?
It can be speculated whether the Ancient Sages built the other six Temples or not. It seems that the title Sage of ... (or ... Sage) is just an abbreviation of Sage of the ... Temple. The role of the Sages is, as Impa says, to guard their Temples. From this piece of evidence, it can be infered that the Ancient Sages were also guardians of their Temples, but nothing more. Because of this, more evidence should be used.
The five Hyrule temples seem to be made by imperfect, unlike the Light Temple and the Temple of Time. According to non canon sources, such as zelda.com and the Official Strategy Guide, the Spirit Temple was made by Gerudos, of which one can conclude that the other temples were made by the tribe who lived on that area. But it is not necessary to use non canon sources as an evidence, since they all seem to be destroyed by time: the Forest Temple stairs, the Desert Colossus' face... But if they were built by imperfect hands, why do they wield so much power? Maybe the Ancient Sages used the Triforce to convert the five Temples into portals to the Sacred Realm.
The Temple of Light is a totally different case: it seems to be a counterpart to the Temple of Time. The resting place of the Triforce seems to have been built to protect it from evil ones, as the Ancient Sages did with the Temple of Time. From this, it can be concluded that they also built, using the power of Triforce, the Light Temple.
[edit] The Triforce before the Ancient Sages
Although most people assume that Triforce was never used before OoT, there is no reason for assuming that. In fact, given the huge number of legends about the Triforce passed down by the Royal Family and the Sheikah, it seems almost impossible that they would know so many things about it if it had never been used before. Even the main achievement of the Ancient Sages evidences that the Triforce had been used before, because if they didn't know the horrible consequences of an evil man holding the golden relic, they wouldn't have sealed it, but use it to lead Hyrule to a golden age of prosperity. Seeing things this way, there is an extreme resemblance between the Triforce and Majora's Mask. As the Happy Mask Salesman says:
According to legend... the troubles caused by Majora's Mask were so great... the ancient ones, fearing such catastrophe, sealed the mask in shadow forever, preventing its misuse. But now, that tribe from the legend has vanished, so no one really knows the true nature of the mask's power...
[edit] Six, seven or many?
An important question about the Ancient Sages is: how many are them? are they six or seven? There are some reasons for each possibility:
On the one hand:
- Seven are the Temples in Hyrule.
- Seven are the Sages in OoT.
- Seven are the years Link's spirit stays inside the Chamber of Sages
- Seven and six are numbers with strong symbolism. Seven means completeness and perfection, while six doesn't look to have an special meaning. Number seven appears 17 times in OoT, while six appears only 10 times.
- Sages outside OoT are always mentioned as being seven:
So the King commanded seven wise men to seal the gate to the Land of the Golden Power. (ALttP SNES)
So the king commanded seven sages to seal the gate to the land of the Golden Power. (ALttP GBA)
But on the other hand:
- The Chamber of Sages seems to have been made for just seven people, i.e. the Six Sages and the Hero of Time
- Six are the Medallions the Sages give to Link.
- Rauru, Sheik, Impa, Nabooru... they all speak about the Six Sages.
- Although Zelda is the Seventh Sage, in the game it never says anything about the Seven Sages.
- Rauru is the Sage of Light, Saria, the Sage of the Forest... but Zelda isn't the Sage of anything.
- According to Zelda, the holder of the Triforce of Wisdom is the Seventh Sage. Rauru, the only surviving of the Ancient Sages, doesn't know anything about the Seventh Sage. In fact, Zelda is the only one that knows about the Seventh Sage.
From this evidence it can be concluded that Ancient Sages were just six people.
[edit] Who were the Ancient Sages?
Although only two of the Sages are known, it can be speculated about who the other six were.
[edit] Rauru, the Sage of Light
Rauru is the only surviving of the Ancient Sages, and almost certainly the Ancient Sage of Light. Why he lives while the others have already died, is unknown. It can be speculated whether he was the leader of the Ancient Sages. In fact, according to non-canon sources, such as Official Strategy Guide and Zelda.com, he was the architect of the Temple of Time, the Ancient Sages' main achievement.
[edit] Kaepora Gaebora, the Sage of ....
They say that the owl named Kaepora Gaebora is the reincarnation of an ancient Sage.According to this piece of gossip from a Gossip Stone, one of the (most hated) characters of OoT
So, the only remaining possibilities are the other five Sages. Of them, it seems more likely that he is the Ancient Sage of Spirit reincarnated, because he is seen twice around the Spirit Temple, and the only time you see him in the future is when Sheik teaches you the Requiem of Spirit.
[edit] The other remaining Sages
Although no more candidates are suggested in OoT, it can be speculated who the rest of them were using as a clue the former holders of the three Spiritual Stones.
The Spiritual Stones are, together with The Ocarina of Time, the keys needed to open the Door of Time. From this, one can assume whether the Ancient Sages created them or that the Spiritual Stones existed before the Sages and they gave the stones the power to open the Door of Time.
Assuming that the stones were passed down by the Sages' descendants, one can speculate about who the Ancient Sage of the Forest, the Ancient Sage of Fire and the Ancient Sage of Water were. It can be speculated whether the Ancient Sage of Shadow was an ancestor of the OoT Impa, possibly also named Impa. .
[edit] Ancient Sage of the Forest
In the vast, deep forest of Hyrule... Long have I served as the guardian spirit... I am known as the Deku Tree...
The Kokiri's Emerald, the Spiritual Stone of Forest, is the only one of the Spiritual Stones that isn't said to have been passed through a race. The only known holder of the stone seems to be the Great Deku Tree. Then one may think that he is one of the Ancient Sages. He dies after you defeat Queen Gohma, so he is not alive when you enter to the Chamber of Sages. It can be asked how a tree can enter inside the Chamber of Sages, but since it seems the Sages can only enter in there in a spiritual form and that just Link's spirit is kept in the chamber, it can be possible that Deku Tree just sends his spirit to be able to act as the Ancient Sage of Forest. The only problems for this theory are that Ancient Sages seem to have died ages ago, and that the Deku Tree never claims to be a Sage, but the guardian spirit.
[edit] Ancient Sage of Fire
A long time ago there was an evil dragon named Volvagia living in this mountain. That dragon was very scary! He ate Gorons! Using a huge hammer, the hero of the Gorons... BOOOM! Destroyed it just like that. This is a myth from long ago, but it's true! I know, because my dad is a descendant of the hero! (Link of the Gorons, Darunia's son)
Although there's really little evidence about who the Ancient Sage of Fire is, we know he must be an ancestor of Darunia. Only one of them is known, the so-called Hero of Gorons. Though there is no in-game evidence to prove or even suggest that he was the Sage of Fire, there is no reason to disprove it. In fact, he:
- Was the leader of their people.
- Is an ancestor of the Sage of Fire.
- He may have been a holder of the Goron's Ruby
- He died ages ago, as did the Ancient Sages.
[edit] Ancient Sage of Water
My mother gave it to me and said I should give it only to the man who will be my husband. You might call it the Zora's Engagement Ring! (Ruto)
From this evidence it can be speculated how the Zora's Sapphire was passed down the Zoras. It seems to be like this:
The Zora princess gives it to the man who is to become her husband, and King of the Zoras. Once they have a girl, before the mother dies, or before the girl gets married, the mother gives it to the eldest daughter.
From this speculation it can be concluded that both the royalty and the Spiritual Stone of Water are inherited through a matriarchal line.
So, the first holder of the Spiritual Stone and Ancient Sage of Water might be the first queen of the Zoras, the wife of King Zora I.
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[edit] Relevant quotes
- Zelda, explaining the legend of Triforce to Link:
The three goddesses hid the Triforce containing the power of the gods somewhere in Hyrule. The power to grant the wish of the one who holds the Triforce in his hands. If someone with a righteous heart makes a wish, it will lead Hyrule to a golden age of prosperity... If someone with an evil mind has his wish granted, the world will be consumed by evil...That is what has been told... So, the ancient Sages built the Temple of Time to protect the Triforce from evil ones.
- Rauru, the first time Link meets him:
Link... Wake up... Link, the chosen one... I am Rauru, one of the ancient Sages... Ages ago, we ancient Sages built the Temple of Time to protect the entrance to the Sacred Realm... This is the Chamber of Sages, inside the Temple of Light... The Temple of Light, situated in the very center of the Sacred Realm, is the last stronghold against Ganondorf's evil forces. The Master Sword--the evil-destroying sword that you pulled out of the Pedestal of Time--was the final key to the Sacred Realm.
- A Gossip Stone in Sacred Forest Meadow:
They say that the owl named Kaepora Gaebora is the reincarnation of an ancient Sage.
[edit] Translations
| Country | Name |
| Japanese | 大昔の賢者 ("oomukashi-no kenjya") |
| English | ancient Sages |
| French | anciens Sages |
| German | Weisen |
The Japanese means ancient Sages, while, with little imagination, one can see the English and the French translations are the same. The German means just "Sages"
[edit] Acknowledgments
Entry submitted by Arturo
[edit] See also
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