Wizzrobe - Revision history

Davogones: /* Name confusion */

2006-01-28T16:32:11Z

‎Name confusion

Davogones: /* Name confusion */

2006-01-28T16:17:20Z

‎Name confusion

Davogones: Added name confusion

2006-01-28T16:07:15Z

Added name confusion

Lesoria: /* See also */

2006-01-28T14:39:18Z

‎See also

Lesoria: /* Translations */ ウィ = WI

2006-01-28T14:38:13Z

‎Translations: ウィ = WI

Lesoria: /* Apocrypha Notes */ I'll state my reasons for removing this on the discussion page.

2006-01-28T14:31:52Z

‎Apocrypha Notes: I'll state my reasons for removing this on the discussion page.

Lesoria: /* Translations */

2006-01-28T14:23:19Z

‎Translations

Arturo: /* Notes */

2006-01-20T20:34:34Z

‎Notes

Arturo: /* Notes */ Wizzrobe-Invocantis

2006-01-20T20:33:21Z

‎Notes: Wizzrobe-Invocantis

Arturo: /* Translations */

2006-01-20T19:30:19Z

‎Translations

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 The similar [[Magician|Magicians]] appear in the [[Island Palace]]. They warp here and there, throwing fire, and can be defeated with normal sword blows. They also look similar to the Wizzrobe, but less so because of their uncovered skull face.
-In addition to a possible naming inconsistency, there is also name confusion in America. NOA never assigned these enemies official names. To fill the void, fans created their own names and these names stuck. So, one will see Wizards sometimes called Magicians.  One will see Magicians sometimes called Sorcerers or Wizards.
+So are Wizzrobes the same as Wizards or Magicians? In spite of their similarities, they do have different Japanese names. In nearly all cases we know of, different Japanese names indicate different things. AoL is sort of the exception, since some familiar Zelda things were made vastly different, or were renamed. (For example, AoL has [[Ache]] instead of [[Keese]], and [[Zora]] has the same name but is vastly different in AoL).
 ==See also==

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 ==Name confusion==
-It is possible that the [[Wizard|Wizards]] in AoL are actually Wizzrobes. The two enemies look and behave very similarly. Their Japanese names are also very similar: compare ウィズザール (WIZ'ZĀRU) with ウィズロープ (WIZ'RŌBU). The NES Atlas, on page 68, says "To defeat the sly and quick Wizzrobe, Carock, Link must use Reflect." Carock is the boss of the Maze Island Palace, which is infested with other Wizards like himself, who warp around, shoot a beam spell, and can only be defeated if their magic is reflected back at them. The Wizards and Carock both look very much like the traditional Wizzrobe in LoZ.
+[[Image:Wizard.gif|left]]It is possible that the [[Wizard|Wizards]] in AoL are actually Wizzrobes. The two enemies look and behave very similarly. Their Japanese names are also very similar: compare ウィズザール (WIZ'ZĀRU) with ウィズロープ (WIZ'RŌBU). The NES Atlas, on page 68, says "To defeat the sly and quick Wizzrobe, Carock, Link must use Reflect." [[Image:Carock.gif|right]] [[Carock]] is the boss of the [[Maze Palace]], which is infested with other Wizards like himself, who warp around, shoot a beam spell, and can only be defeated if their magic is reflected back at them. The Wizards and Carock both look very much like the traditional Wizzrobe in LoZ.
-The similar Magicians appear in the Ocean Palace. They warp here and there, throwing fire, and can be defeated with normal sword blows. They also look similar to the Wizzrobe, but less so because of their uncovered skull face.
+[[Image:Magician.gif|left]]
 In addition to a possible naming inconsistency, there is also name confusion in America. NOA never assigned these enemies official names. To fill the void, fans created their own names and these names stuck. So, one will see Wizards sometimes called Magicians.  One will see Magicians sometimes called Sorcerers or Wizards.

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 | '''Country''' || '''Name (MM)'''|| '''Name (TWW)'''  || '''Name (TMC)'''
 |- style="background:beige;"
-| Japanese || ウィズロープ(WIZURÓBU) || ウィズロープ(WIZURÓBU) || ウィズロープ(WIZURÓBU)
+| Japanese || ウィズロープ(WIZURŌBU) || ウィズロープ(WIZURŌBU) || ウィズロープ(WIZURŌBU)
 |- style="background:beige;"
 | English || Wizrobe || Wizzrobe || Wizzrobe
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 ===Notes===
-The Japanese name for the Wizzrobe (from the "Zelda no Densetsu" manual) is UIZURÓBU. This seems to be a transliteration of "Wizzrobe" into Japanese katakana.
+The Japanese name for the Wizzrobe (from the "Zelda no Densetsu" manual) is WIZURŌBU. This seems to be a transliteration of "Wizzrobe" into Japanese katakana.
 The Wizrobes in MM are presumably the same, or similar to, the Wizzrobes in the other Zelda games, just with an alternate spelling. The Spanish version of MM uses the same name, Wizrobe (as it usually does with all names). The German version of MM calls the Wizrobe "Zaurob." The German word "Zauberer" can connotate a wizard, sorcerer, magician, warlock, enchantor, conjurer, etc. "Robe" is the same word in German and English. The French version of MM uses the name "Sorce-Robe." The French word for sorcerer is "sorcier," and the French word for wizardry is "sorcelerie". So it seems that the translation is using the root for "wizardry," not for "sorcerer." "Robe" is the same word in French and English.
 The later Zelda games (TWW & TMC) have new names for some languages. The French now call it just a Sorcerer. The German call it a Pyromagus; a magus is sometimes referred as a magic user and the German prefix "pyro" is indeed connected to fire just as with English.The Spanish comes from the verb ''invocar'', "cast" because they can summon other criatures.  I don't know however what the Italian versions are supposed to mean.
 ==See also==

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 ==See also==
 *[[Agahnim]]
 *[[Magic Wand]]
 *[[Magician]]
 *[[Sorcerer]]
 [[Category:Zelda Creatures]]

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 | '''Country''' || '''Name (MM)'''|| '''Name (TWW)'''  || '''Name (TMC)'''
 |- style="background:beige;"
-| Japanese || ウィズロープ(UIZURÓBU) || ウィズロープ(UIZURÓBU) || ウィズロープ(UIZURÓBU)
+| Japanese || ウィズロープ(WIZURÓBU) || ウィズロープ(WIZURÓBU) || ウィズロープ(WIZURÓBU)
 |- style="background:beige;"
 | English || Wizrobe || Wizzrobe || Wizzrobe
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 The later Zelda games (TWW & TMC) have new names for some languages. The French now call it just a Sorcerer. The German call it a Pyromagus; a magus is sometimes referred as a magic user and the German prefix "pyro" is indeed connected to fire just as with English.The Spanish comes from the verb ''invocar'', "cast" because they can summon other criatures.  I don't know however what the Italian versions are supposed to mean.
 ==See also==

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	The later Zelda games (TWW & TMC) have new names for some languages. The French now call it just a Sorcerer. The German call it a Pyromagus; a magus is sometimes referred as a magic user and the German prefix "pyro" is indeed connected to fire just as with English.The Spanish comes from the verb ''invocar'', "cast" because they can summon other criatures. I don't know however what the Italian versions are supposed to mean.		The later Zelda games (TWW & TMC) have new names for some languages. The French now call it just a Sorcerer. The German call it a Pyromagus; a magus is sometimes referred as a magic user and the German prefix "pyro" is indeed connected to fire just as with English.The Spanish comes from the verb ''invocar'', "cast" because they can summon other criatures. I don't know however what the Italian versions are supposed to mean.

−	~~==Apocrypha Notes==~~

−	There are many similarities between the [[Wizard]] in AoL and the Wizzrobes. However, I am currently unable to determine whether all of these wizards were intended to be Wizzrobes or not. Certainly, no canon source calls them Wizzrobes. Perhaps the NES Atlas can give us some insight. On page 68, it says "To defeat the sly and quick Wizzrobe, [[Carock]], Link must use [[Reflec]]t." Carock is the boss of the [[Maze Island Palace]], which is infested with other wizards like himself, who warp around, shoot a beam spell, and can only be defeated if their magic is reflected back at them. (One will see these called Magicians. This name is probably not official, since I think it was invented.) The Magicians and Carock both look very much like the traditional Wizzrobe in LoZ.
−
−	The similar Sorcerers (invented name once again?) appear in the [[Ocean Palace]]. (They are also called Wizards sometimes.) They warp here and there, throwing fire, and can be defeated with normal sword blows. They also look similar to the Wizzrobe, but less so because of their different face. As you can see, there is much confusion about these enemies, since it is unclear whether they have been given official names or not. I would not hesitate to accept all of these enemies as Wizzrobes, but to be absolutely sure I would need to see them specifically named in more sources.

	==See also==		==See also==

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 The Wizrobes in MM are presumably the same, or similar to, the Wizzrobes in the other Zelda games, just with an alternate spelling. The Spanish version of MM uses the same name, Wizrobe (as it usually does with all names). The German version of MM calls the Wizrobe "Zaurob." The German word "Zauberer" can connotate a wizard, sorcerer, magician, warlock, enchantor, conjurer, etc. "Robe" is the same word in German and English. The French version of MM uses the name "Sorce-Robe." The French word for sorcerer is "sorcier," and the French word for wizardry is "sorcelerie". So it seems that the translation is using the root for "wizardry," not for "sorcerer." "Robe" is the same word in French and English.
-The later Zelda games (TWW & TMC) have new names for some languages. The French now call it just a Sorcerer. The German call it a Pyromagus; a magus is sometimes referred as a magic user and the German prefix "pyro" is indeed connected to fire just as with English.The Spanish comes from the verb ''invocar'', "cast" because they can cast other criatures.  I don't know however what the Italian versions are supposed to mean.
+The later Zelda games (TWW & TMC) have new names for some languages. The French now call it just a Sorcerer. The German call it a Pyromagus; a magus is sometimes referred as a magic user and the German prefix "pyro" is indeed connected to fire just as with English.The Spanish comes from the verb ''invocar'', "cast" because they can summon other criatures.  I don't know however what the Italian versions are supposed to mean.
 ==Apocrypha Notes==

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 | Spanish || Wizrobe || Invocantis || Invocantis
 |- style="background:beige;"
-| Italian || ? || Sciamanix || Tunica
+| Italian || - || Sciamanix || Tunica
 |}